The Perfect Shirt

Collar

To find out your collar size, it’s best to get yourself professionally measured or use a shirt that already fits you perfectly.Make sure your collar fits correctly

  • Measure from the beginning of the button hole to the centre of the button to get your collar size.
  • When you first try on your shirt new, you should be able to fit two fingers inside the neck when it’s fully done up.
  • If your collar fits snugly when you first try on your shirt, then the collar size is too small.
  • After you wash your shirt, you should be able to fit one finger inside the neck comfortably

You get 60% of the natural shrinkage after the first wash and the rest in the next two washes. After that your shirt will not shrink any further.

Body Fit

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The most important thing is to get the body length right first as you can have your sleeve length altered to fit.

  • It’s better to go with a sleeve that’s too long if the body length is right, as you can get the sleeve shortened.
  • The choice is yours to wear a Classic Fit or a Slim Fit shirt. How fitted your shirt is, is a matter of personal preference but your shirt should always button up comfortably without any gaping at the front.
  • Every brand "Slim Fit" is different and there are different degrees of slim fits. For example, our Windsor collar and Duke of York collar slim fit shirts are a more generous cut than our John Francomb Rovereto shirt which is Fully Fitted.
  • Do not assume you can’t wear a Slim Fit shirt if you’re not slim
  • Slim Fit doesn’t mean Fully Fitted, Slim Fit shirts are less loose fitting than a classic fit shirt.

Sleeve

A sleeve that is too short and one that is the correct length

  • You cuff should fall just below your wrist bone, nearest to your hand.
  • You should always show some shirt sleeve under the edge of your suit.

Comments

I feel like going to wash all of my shirts a couple of times, just so the collar can shrink to the proper size. Thanks for the tip!

Hello! May I ask you if washing has helped to shrink your collar size? I've got the sleeves a little bit bigger than needed. Thanks in advance!

Hi Sergiy,

I don't know if this will help, but...

...all of our collars actually start out 1/4" larger than the labeled size - so they will shrink slightly from when you first try it on.

My collar size is 17,but when I get a shirt it does not fit my chest it is far to tight my chest is 44in thats my problem
Why are the St. James collar shirts discontinued? Judging by the poll numbers they seem to be quite popular. I'd love to buy some with 16 collar and 36 sleeves.

Hi,

We are actually just about to re-launch the St James shirt! It will be in May's catalogue and online in April, it will also be available in a 16"collar and 36"sleeve.

Dan

Guys - Love the shirts! I really like the Windsor slim fit shirts and was wondering if you plan on making them with a button cuff. I love the shape of the collar and don't wear the shirts with a suit.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TM.LEWIN. . . TM TO WORK, TM TO CHUCRH, TM TO WEDDINGS, TM TO INTERVIEWS, TM TO MEETINGS, TM TO FAMILY DINNERS, TM TO PARTIES, TM TO RELAX AT HOME. MY LIFE'S MADE COMPLETE BY TM LEWIN AND I AM VERY HAPPY. GOT OVER 40 SHIRTS AND THEY ARE ALL TM LEWIN, KEEP THE AMAZING DESIGNS COMING. JUST ONE VERY QUICK QUESTION DO YOU THINK ITS BEST TO KEEP THE CUFF A LIL SHORTER THAN NORMAL ON SLIM FIT SHIRTS TO ENHANCE THE SLIM-SMART LOOK ?

Been wearing Lewin shirts for over 20 years and they're the best.  I especially enjoy the st.James shirts.  Very crisp.  Are there any plans for an even more tailored look.  Perhaps a shorter tail and sharper darts at the back for the more svelte gentleman?

Perhaps have a look at our John Francomb range of shirts, they are currently the most fitted that we offer.

HELLO

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER MORE WINDSOR SLIM FIT SHIRTS IN SIZE 18/36?

REGARDS

Hi,

Keep checking the new arrivals because we add new stock regularly.
We've currently got 12 Windsor shirts online in your size.

Dan

Hi Dan I have almost (8) all those shitrs you meant. May be TML would like to sell more in my size ... then offer more . thanks aurelien
I find sometimes that being a little bigger than normal, that to get a shirt that fits well in front the sleeves are too long and to get the right sleeve length the shirt is a little tight.  What is the answer to this?

Hi,

I think a lot of people probably have that problem. We try to get round it by offering a great variety of collar sizes and sleeve lengths. Otherwise, the answer would be to have your shirts altered - either the sleeves shortened or the body darted at the back.

Will the John Francomb range of shirt sizes be extended I wear a 16/33 but this size is not available.  If I were to buy one and have the sleeves altered should I go down to a 33 sleeve or does a slimmer shirt require a slightly longer sleeve?

I have noticed that some of the shirts eg luxury or lewins 100 seem to come up different sizes in the sleeve despite the fact that they are the same type (duke of york for instance) and the label says they are same size. Is there a reason for this?

Hi,

Were you looking for a particular shirt? The John Francomb shirts are available in 16/33, perhaps the shirt you were after was out of stock at the time.

It actually isn't the case that the sleeves are different lengths, more likely is that this is due to shrinkage. All cotton will shrink slightly, so if you have washed one of your shirts more than the other - it might have shrunk to a small degree.

Hope that helps,
Dan

Whats the best way to prevent ring around the collar stains? is there a stain cleaner that men should use after removing the shirt from a long day at the office?

Hi Derrick,

You can purchase good detergents at any supermarket, I haven't found any particular one to be more effective than others.

There are also 'stain sticks' which you apply to your shirt collar before you put it in the wash, a quick Google search will yield quite a few result for these products!

Dan

Hi

Some styles of the St.james collar shirts are not produced in the 15.5 33'.  They are in other sizes.  How come?  Why aren't they in all the stores yet especially Jermyn street?  It's my local stomping ground! 

Hi,

If they're not available to purchase it'll be a stock issue, as in those sizes will have sold out. Looking at the site, we currently have 13 St James shirts in the a 15.5 / 33:
http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/ProductList.aspx/MenFormalShirts/MenShirtsStJam...

When are you all going to get more solid color St. James shirts in stock?

Hi,

We try to refresh our stock as often as possible, the best thing to do is keep an eye on the New Arrivals section:

http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/Category.aspx/BothNewArrivals

Hellow Srs,

What happened with your shoes catalogue? Are you still selling shoes?

 

Thanks,

why on site don't present table for man's shirts

for each model garment measure (chest, waist and height)  according to the size collar size. It's very difficult to choose the proper size of a shirt only by collar size and length sleeve.

I agree 100%. Very frustrating. Every sites definition of what is classic or slim fit is different. I have always been tempted to buy on TM Lewin but am not willing to risk the sizing. All that is required is a garment measurement in cm/inches. i.e. the chest measures x, the waist measures y. To say that something is to fit a certain chest size does not help at all. If you give the exact measurements then you can measure an existing shirt you own that fits well and then match it against that. You would think it would be common sense really.
that would be really helpful

Hi John & Team,

I am looking for a close to the body white shirt.  I currently wear the Buckingham slim fit 15 1/2 shirt, but I still find it a bit loose around the chest (38 inc) while at the same time "puffing up" around the waist (32 inc waist) in a not flatering way.  Is there a model range that would work better for me?  I was thinking of trying the 15 in collar shirts but I am not sure what the impact would be on the length, where it seems I could use longer length.  Many thanks in advance.

I have an issue with the slim/fully fitted shirts in that I could really do with an inch longer on the sleeves.  I take a 17/36 and while the neck and body fit is great the sleeves are just on the limit if acceptability.  Any plans to add longer sleeve lengths to the slim/fully fitted range?

It seams like there are a lot of customers who have the same problem, including me. Measurement problem! How come you don't even answer these guys on the question: Why don't you do a table with all the different collar measures, including the shoulder, chest and height and waist measures?? This would help us customers a lot and I believe that even you have interest in doing it.

I'm one of these who have problem finding the right size, and every time I send back a package from Sweden it cost me around £17. This holds people back when ordering shirts from TML

These are just some suggestions.

VBC
VBC

Good morning. I was wondering how the Luxury Slim Fit compares to the John Francomb Milan Slim Fit. The Milan Slim Fit is a near perfect fir for me - sleeves and torso length. The Roverto works when I have lost a little weight but as a casual shirt and I can't tuck it in. I am hoping that the Luxury Slim Fit is more like the Milan and has a long body and as roomy as well.

Thank you.

Hello Victor,

All our slim fit shirts are the same in size and cut so the Luxury Slim Fit will be the same (in sleeves and torso) as the John Francomb Milan Slim Fit. The Roverto is a a fully fitted shirt so will fit closer to the body.

If you want some more information check out this blog by Wayne on shirt shapes: http://community.tmlewin.co.uk/blogs/posts/shirt-shapes

I hope this helps!
April